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Lee Pope's avatar

I just found this earlier article - sad, puzzling, alarming! I realize I don't really comprehend the full complexity of the human psyche. Maybe nobody does.

Some thoughts that came to me after reading this have to do with the polarity that is sometimes referenced between practical action and the belief that that thoughts, feelings, expectations etc. have a real impact on what ultimately unfolds in the physical world. I think it's both/and, not either/or. If we are complacent about the problems we are facing (as in whatever God or the universe or fate or evolution - pick one - decrees is meant to happen) we become passive. Or, if we decide that based on science its too late to take effective action, if we are then hopeless to the point of despair, it is natural to become apathetic. Denial is another common response to either of these ways of seeing things. None of these fatalistic responses are going to save us, to put it mildly. On the other hand, fully realizing and feeling the full extent of our situation as suggested by science can be a strong motivator to take necessary action. (Joanna Macy has written about this.) When we also understand that we really can't know for sure whether a situation is hopeless, and that how we respond does make a difference - this is motivating and powerful, whether we are talking about climate change, elections, or a myriad of other situations that need our active attention and response. So hope can be a powerful force for change, unlike despair. We don't have to choose between being alarmed and being hopeful - in the balance of those two we may discover the best responses.

Charles's idealism has become dangerously ungrounded. This is really too bad. His past belief in a more beautiful world was highly idealistic while also acknowledging the reality of our present time. He influences a lot of people and right now his influence could tip the election to Trump. How can he justify this?

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Tham Zhiwa's avatar

THANK you for this cogent explanation of the inexplicable conversion of Eisenstein. I am a YUGE fan of the two books of his you mention, and as a climate psychologist and advocate, I had considered him a kindred spirit and brilliant mind on the side of social transformation. And so it feels deeply personal to suddenly see him advocating for the forces of social ignorance and malevolence that he seemed to view as the foe in, especially, his New Story book. We really DO need a new myth, and to reject the worldview that got us into this mess. And now he's perpetuating that world view? REALLY?? It's like RFK Jr.'s brain worm jumped ears!! And you're right - we need two-eyed solutions to the climate crisis. Not a rejection of science, but rather the scientific-materialist worldview it gave rise to that objectifies nature and others human beings. Early on my own spiritual path, I had to confront my "Spiritual Ego" (ego cloaked in spirit) to make any real progress. All I can think of with Charles is that he is blind to his own prodigious spiritual ego, and has been seduced by privilege and praise - not unlike a certain orange-haired narcissist. Gaia help us when these kinds of friends turn into strangers first and enemies thereafter. It's rather demoralizing at a time when we need all the help we can muster.

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